Impressive W:ET stats!

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Online Gaming Zeitgeist have listed a complete stats breakdown of different First-Person-Shooter games. And what best, Counter-Strike 1.6 is leading with its 90,000 active players while CS: Source comes second with only 55,000. Battlefield 2 comes in with 20,000 and our beloved Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory with 10,000.


The Order

1. Counter-Strike
2. CS: Source
3. Battlefield 2
4. Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
5. CS: Condition Zero
6. Team Fortress 2
7. Battlefield 2142


We all know ET is a bit old but its impressive that a game like W:ET has so good stats.

http://www.onlinegamingzeitgeist.com/games/

If you look at this graph below in the link it clearly shows that W:ET is still dominating over games like Quake 4, ET:QW & Crysis.

http://www.onlinegamingzeitgeist.com/graphs/special_3years.png

Admin aka Taken comment: Note that these numbers only are correct for W:ET, BF2 and BF2142 and that all stats are copied from gamespy.com/stats and does not have anything to do with onlinegamingzeigeist.
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...the majority of which is noquarter, jaymod, and etpub. :( If we could get those people playing etpro the player base would actually be growing.

I wonder where COD4 would be on that graph.
CoD4 - 3rd place imo after CS propably it have like 30k players
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Shame CoD2 is better, can't be helped, it's like when everyone moved to Q4 despite Q3 being waaaaay better.
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sadly competion is more important than fun, for most people
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2 years before when i ran a Jaymod server in its early status,
after played on it a lot, i said jaymod will pwn etpro coz its more fun, and not everyone wanna go proplayer. i had a 40 slot server and it was full almost all day. lot of usa players used it when the EU guys went sleep :P

jaybird > bani and the other guys
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Yeah, years ago I played on Jaybird's server quite a bit... I guess a lot of people simply don't try etpro long enough to get used to the SMG oriented play style, since most pubs are shrub-style-panzer-and-arty-fests. Also the fact that etpro is closed source doesn't help, since otherwise something that bridges etpub and etpro could be created, making the transition easier for newbs. If etpro were the only mod (like CS), then ET's competition community would thrive more than it ever has previously.
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i still dont get it why its closed source?
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I would understand why it is kept private whilst the project was active and etpro versions were being released every now and then - but now after more than a year without any updates, there is no point.
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u should still run clan like <SS> or something, because thats the way how i found out about the real et-scene, started playing matches etc :) think if there still would be clans like <SS>, -=KTA=- and LoL in 2 months we would have many new ET noobs here :D
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was a great time :(
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i miss the pub times badly :< all the SS crew pwning in jaymod server<3 :D
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LoL still plays, but most of their admins are whiners, kickers and abusers, 1 of the main admins is friendly though.
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lol plz that is so wrong
but et dies, no advertisment -> no future, bb
ET has too many pub-only-players. I think our game misses a newbie-friendly community site (german ppl might know www.et-scene.de). OK, there might be www.enemy-territory.com ... dont rly know that one.
However, I can't explain why so many ppl play public only... maybe it's because the average etpro-player has the image of an arrogant, flaming kiddie?
most of the newbies cant handle to install the patches, especially 2.6b + etpro 3.2.6. - its NOT newbie-friendly.

there are still many guys playing 2.55 or 2.6 even in Clans.
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isnt there an easy to install version on crossfire?
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the newbs dont know crossfire :)
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first you have to find crossfire... it took me about 1year after release to get here ;)
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http://www.kashu.fr/etui/ The easy way of installing ET, but noone promotes this one too, so we stick with the hard way of installing ET ;x
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and why is this news ?
nothing important really happening so might aswell leave it here (c) some random british guy
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fix typo!
QuoteWe all know ET is a bit old


counterstrike is 5(?) years older
ET is 4 so i think cs is like 8

( time is going way to fast tbh )
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my cs box says 2005 :ASD
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Everything is more wierd in ur country, thats why
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:(



image: pcg_counter-strike_1_anthology



lower left corner (even google has these packs!)
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haha hungarian stickers!!! :D
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It's CZ and as a whole collection, not simple cs x-)
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its maybe the cover or ur version. Halflife 1 got released somewhere around 1998

http://hl2.gamona.de/content.php?id=7

check the first line.
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i know, i know : p
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etpro is dead, GO ON GAYMOD
Nice..

ADJI!!!
Plekter <3 Hvornår kommer du hjem? :DDDD
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Best games live, no matter how old they are. CS is best example.
ET:QW you mean*
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:DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
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so is ET 2.55?:P
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well, most CS players play 1.6 not 1.5 or earlier versions... I think 2.60b is best ET version, but ofc other ET versions are still ET
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Gl in that wintercup on 2.55 :X
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huh which cup
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wintercup on 2.55/ haribo told me you were gonna play for MeD
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haribo is full of crap :d
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games like CS will never die
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so if we must let ET live, we must start playing jaymod+etpub etc?
You're saying yeah ET may be old but it's still got loadsa people playing it.. But CS 1.6 is older and it kinda has alot more.. ?
omg just 9 times more! rly not that much!
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LOL YEAH LOL
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... All we have do now is to find a way to make Enemy Territory older than Counter-Strike.
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Because it has one unified community, which of course gets commercially supported and grows further. I think ET had comparable potential if things went "perfectly".
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By writing this newspost i am trying to show all the lame guys that starts saying ET is dead, but it actully isn't. In fact we are getting a lot more players these last months if you look on the graph.
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it doesnt help a shit. the saying "ET IS DEAD" means competetive Enemy Territory scene. All the new players going to jaymod, pub or even stay 2.55 since its hard for a noob to download install all the patches / updates.
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Those stats are very wrong :)

If you go to steampowered (valves steam webpage) you can see that 1.6 have more than 200k players at peek times and CSS more than whats on that list.

Bad work by someone :)
So you are saying that valve is more right than Online Gaming Zeitgeist ?
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ye surprised too :D i would never base on my oppinion on valve stats :D
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Haha i actully lol'd by his comment :D
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Well its not Online Gaming Zeitgeist's numbers, its gamespys numbers - they only copy pasted them..
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Yes because Valve made CS and CSS and runs the content servers, so they are the only one with the right stats. THis german webpage only grabbs the stats from gamespy and gamespy only works for games using gamespy server software. (such games as w:et, battlefield 2, cod2, cod4) Games such as ETQW, CS, CSS dont have the right numbers in gamespy as gamespy. So the article is very much flawed. Should say that the numbers only are accurate for games using gamespy server software.

For steam games go to: http://steampowered.com/v/index.php?area=stats&cc=NO
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Do you really think that 500.000 CS players are online right now?
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Thats for all games on steam smart ass, click detailed to cs only...
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im gonna ask the same question again
do you really think that these numbers are true?

Counter-Strike: 345,825 players online
Counter-Strike: Source 78,261 players online
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Wow got millions online at the same time, DO YOU BELIEVE IT? :o

The proof says so, who are I to say its not true based on what I believe?

I think you should buy a time machine and go back to the 1500s where personal belief were more important than proof. :)
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I really don't belive that around 400.000 are actully playing cs 1.6 right now. Serverspy, gamespy, gametracker + the a lot of danish websites are saying that 400.000 is just a big number for that game.

And about you starting being lame i just have one thing to say. Please grow up.

+ Maybe you should stop editing your post its kinda lame tbh.
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Edited my posts due to commenting wrong persons sorry :) (mixed you and zodiac)

The thing is it does not matter if you believe it or not. Scans from the master servers done by a serious big company says so and thats about 10000 more times credible than you :) So unless you find som eevidence to back your personal statements up your basically losing. (if you got any sources like you indicate you need to post them if you want to prove that they exist outside your head..)

EDIT: And serverspy, gamespy and similar sites dont have access to any cs master server as well and only scans random servers resulting in wrong numbers. (For many more games than cs :) )
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Look Valve, Sierra, Minh "Gooseman" Le and Jess "Cliffe" Cliffe are the only ones who have acces to the masterserver.

Valve is in your mind serious game manufacturer and a big multi million company.

Well you only got one proff and thats the scan from valve but it aint worth calling a proff since it aint a neutral/3rd part evidence.
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Well its as much proof as this gamespy scans you have in your newspost :)

The only accurate scans gamespy got is part of big contracts. If valve has motive to boost their numbers, gamespy+their friends got just the same..

But its both bullshit and you go 0 to back those accusations with :)
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lol? I really don't get you.

Are you giving grades or wtf?
Your piece of bullshit with that valve has the accurate numbers and all that is just as shitty as mine gamespy gametracker evidence.

Please don't try to be smart. I know you are admin and all that but that dosnen't mean you are more right than i am.
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Why should the Gamespy stats be more accurate than the ones by Valve? After all anyone who wants to play Counterstrike needs to log in to Steam, so it'd be quite easy for Valve to produce accurate stats, unlike Gamespy. They'd need to scan every server. But: Does Gamespy know every server? How are they supposed to?

Ahh, yes the conspiracy card! Obviously Valve falsifies their stats!
Why should they do that? Do you have any proof? Why shouldn't Gamespy falsify their stats?

Lots of questions and I only know the answer to one question: Do you talk out of your ass?
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The short answer is that Valve's statistics *are* accurate, but they use a different sampling range (include non-public, local servers, local singleplayer games, lan games, etc). GameSpy uses only public servers like you'd expect to find on a normal online server listing.

If you look at GameSpy stats for CS and CS:S, you'll see its numbers are similar to game-monitor, serverspy, and the now deceased csnation. As such, Steampowered is the exception. And again, not because it's "more" or "less" accurate, but because it uses a different range.
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Saying that 400k players are playing CS atm is just LOELZ..
(lol @ 7 playing cspromod)
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Well millions are playing wow and cs is the biggest fps and has been that for like 9 years now? + cs is starting to become big in asia as well. If this is wrong, please link me to source that say so instead of posting a comment worth 0...

and the current version of csp is totally bugged and unplayable :(
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I believe that WoW have alot of players, simply because almost everyone I know have played or are playing it. (friends and people at school)

But noone at my school play CS, none of my friends, neither anyone in my family.
Or anyone else I know.
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Well again please post some proof to back up your silly statements rather than making them more silly :)

I dont know anyone that do drugs, I dont know anyone that commits serious crime, I dont know anyone thats pedophile so surely all stats regarding those cases are overrated and untrue.

Well your way of arguing doesnt really work :)
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Oh please, I just stated the big difference between WoW and CS' playerbase.
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No you dident. you know about maybe 300 people of 60 000 000 00 people and that none of them plays cs does not really tell anything about the rest :)

Edit: One big reason why cs has continued to grow over the years is its low system req, making it popular in up and coming country's around the world.
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neither anyone out there knows a famous cs palyer but some random mym guys who just felt apart? (was it mym? could have been noa aswell)

Anyway, if you just check cs at clanbase, you see it is 1000x what et is, and in addition there are publics aswell random people play on all the day. Those stats are more serious and accurate than anyone out there could get, since valve has the steam id to have unique players only and they would not be able to get sponsors without valid proofes - and hey, they have those sponsors for cs and selling hours of advertisemet for quite much money.

It's known for months that gamespy or others are far from accurate - in et as in other games.
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"If you go to steampowered (valves steam webpage) you can see that 1.6 have more than 200k players at peek times and CSS more than whats on that list."

It's because Steam stats use internal data which include local, single player, and lan-based statistics, albeit GameSpy stats uses data from public servers only.

"THis german webpage only grabbs the stats from gamespy and gamespy only works for games using gamespy server software. (such games as w:et, battlefield 2, cod2, cod4) Games such as ETQW, CS, CSS dont have the right numbers in gamespy as gamespy. So the article is very much flawed. Should say that the numbers only are accurate for games using gamespy server software."

That is wrong in many levels. Let me just remind you that what GameSpy does is query master server lists and public servers - the same as game-monitor, or serverspy - and then generate statistics from that. For some games (Battlefield) they have the luxury of having direct contact to the master server because they host it, but that's about it. The statistics are as accurate as it's possible for a public service to be, and are completely unrelated to GameSpy server or client backend.

The page isn't German. It's "global" (.com) and maintained by a Brazilian.

Please read the Faq on the page before doing uninformed comments.
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Pretty good for a free game.
Important parts bolded.

COD4 will own that list next year though and games like Halo3 have more active players than those listed ones combined.
It's too bad ET is a free game, idd.
But if it weren't for the fact that it's free, I would never have started with it. :D
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RtCW players would
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I talked about me, not RtCW-players..
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Shame CoD2 is better.
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COD5 is coming next year :DDDDDDDDDdddddd
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Not made by IW, but Treyarch and will not be anything like COD4, except in xmas sales.
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Next year every cod4 player will be playing cod5..
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Who made the admin-comment?
Taken?

Could that admin please come with arguments to prove his statement right?
And not stats from the game-manufacture please (as if they are true!).
I made the note due the newspost not stating that these numbers only are from GameSpy and therfore only correct for games using gamespy software :) (aka games using GameSpy master servers)

And for you not believing the real n umbers.. The only company/website able to get precise stats from a game is the one that can monitor the master server for it...

Just look at http://www.serverspy.net/site/stats/ who is a 3rd party stats tracker. Its totally bugged for lots of games because it tries to scan ports on all servers, but misses tons as it doesent have access to the master.
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There are alot playing CS, CSS and similar, but I just can't believe it's that much.
Of course more than ET.

But, even if Steam have access to the master server, don't you think they earn a little bit of extra money by adding 100k to the list? (100k was just a sample-number)
No one want to buy a game with almost no players.
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Now you are just talking bullshit :) Please post something to back you up or shut up. valve is a serious game manufacturer and multi million company, not some 15 year old on the internet talking about his penis length.
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Never said they did, I just speculated.
Stop being an ass using my age as an argument in every discussion we have.
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Indeed you only speculate, but still you talk as if you know you are right and got proof.
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He just wanted to contribute to the discussion. But you sir are only bashing the others and defending your own opinion.
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Well if everyone would "contribute" to discussion with their personal opinions and nothing more and still believe they outweigh proof, this world would be a very bad place to be. (aka back to the dark ages)
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as u are doing urself*
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Socialism, way to go.

Best wishes for 2008
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i doubt that those stats are accurate but its known that et got many pub players nothing new
so what? its free...
taken is right when it comes to valve's stats about cs/css
cod4 should be 1st 2nd or 3rd... I'd guess 1st or 2nd since it is so new
hm...do the other communitys are as retarded as the crossfire community ?
funny that you call others retards
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u were meant
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taken, etqw< is< dead..... et is a alive plzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
that list is absolute bullshit. cs may be on top, but the rest is just bullshit.

hi mom!
How so? Proof?
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et is death

who the fuck plays cs:cz? :DDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Pretty good for a free game.
lolol even less players then bf2
Et is in my soul ;D
AMAZING! : oooooo
et is only dominating because it's free and people don't buy games like crysis n stuff coz they are fucking expensive just to play for 10 hours
and our beloved Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory wBehind CS: Source comes Battlefield 2 with only 20,000 players and then our beloved Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory with 10,000.
lal
dont think ET have 10000
More imo :x
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nobody playes q4 anymore
q3 > q4
q3 http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?lid=5175
q4 http://clanbase.ggl.com/news_league.php?lid=5189

q4 was > q3 in it's first days with the ctf boom when everyone was running to the shop and getting the new quake, now they are both boring team wise but there are still more q4 competitions than q3 competitions.

And for LANs, check the latest uk lan with toxic and co and check the amount of signups for q3 at the last cdc, duel wise q4 is the better game.

anyway, both q4/q3 > ut3 and q3 engine > all, that's a fact :p 2bad so many cs noobs and ut iCTF nerds dont get it :/


lets hope for q0
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Quake 4 engine is basically the Doom 3 engine, and even that is basically just a sloppy paste of the Q3 engine with significantly updated graphics.

Q3 > DM3 > 1.6 (based on the Q1 engine lolz) > Source
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so u dont have another point? hi 2008 ^^
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gaymod fucking rox
u are gay so : >
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n1 making it a top 7 xD
Competition is more important than the number of people playing.
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