xD well we killed off one persons base but the other guy started to have like 50000000 thors and we took a few out but you know took huge losses then i was like screw this nuke them :D we are still in bronze though top of the league :( do you know when you get moved up?

To start with, we assumed that Blizzard used a system quite similar to their WoW Arena matchmaking system, albeit with refinements. The Arena system uses a Bayesian inference model to create its ladder and do its matchmaking. What this means in essence is that the rating used to represent your skill is easily updated after each match. For more details, see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayesian_analysis

In conjunction with this, the MMR is actually one part of the skill probability distribution. Blizzard also uses an “uncertainty” factor. That is, when you first start in Arena there is a lot of uncertainty in your rating. As you play more games, that uncertainty decreases and the system is more “confident” in the rating it has assigned to you. I will be referring to this uncertainty factor as sigma, and it is the inverse of the system's confidence. The curve represents a couple related ideas: the range in which your skill may truly fall, as well as the fact that you do not play at exactly the same skill level every game. A more consistent player would have a narrower curve, for example.

After a match finishes, the system needs to update the MMR and sigma for both players. Whenever a match finishes the winner’s MMR increases and the loser’s decreases. More interesting is what happens to the sigmas. If the match finished as expected with the MMR favored player winning (and remember, the loading screen “favored” display is NOT this) then both players' sigmas will decrease. That is, the system gains confidence in the ratings it has assigned to the players. If the match finishes in an upset and both players' sigmas are small, then the sigmas for both players will increase as the system thinks it may have an incorrect rating assigned to both. The change in sigma scales based upon the difference in MMR and the difference in sigmas. That is, losing to someone close to your own rank will not change your sigma too much (though it will over the course of several games).

If a lower-MMR player wins then what happens depends a lot more on their precise equations they are using. If a player's sigma is large in an upset (whether he's the winner or loser) it can decrease. That is because, given the right MMR and sigma values, it's possible in theory for the system to learn about that player's skill and rate him more accurately. If a player's sigma is small, however, it can become larger after an upset if that upset was truly unexpected.

Promotion (what you asked about :p)

As initially theorized, promotion requires your MMR to be above a certain league threshold. However, because MMR changes greatly after each match and the opponent variation is so wide, often spanning multiple leagues, the system requires a particular degree of confidence before it allows promotion.

MMR is erratic. A moving average seeks to smooth out the rapidly changing data points over time by evaluating your progress over X number of games. As we previously estimated, the system doesn't use your full match history because if it did, you would eventually get stuck in a league. Once your moving average crosses a particular league threshold, that's when you'll get promoted.

Players like CauthonLuck and Ret who had obscene win ratios had their MMR data points skyrocket. However, the moving average lags behind. In the cases of those players, it will take much longer for the moving average to reach that required threshold. This is why players like IdrA who were affected by this problem have decided to intentionally throw games in order to get promoted, because it allows the moving average to catch up more quickly.

Possibly related is players that aren't getting promoted or demoted properly despite a high likelihood that their moving average would have crossed the confidence threshold. Blizzard has said that this is indeed a bug and will be fixed by moving the affected players to new divisions.

Displayed Rating

Ok, how does all of this tie into displayed rating and the whole “favored” deal? If you remember back to WoW, ratings changed based on a direct comparison of your displayed rating to the other team’s MMR. So if your current rating was 500 and you were playing people with MMRs of 2000, your rating would jump significantly after every win because of the wide disparity. Now, we’ve identified that on the loading screen quite often players are seeing the other person as favored and the opponent (who is nominally “favored”) also sees his opponent as favored! How can this be? The theory put forth here is the system is again comparing your displayed rating to your opponent’s hidden MMR.

The reason for this is so that the system brings you toward your MMR more quickly.

How it works was like this: Say you've got a MMR of 2500, and you start a new team. It starts at 0 rating, but the matchmaking system will match you with other players of MMR 2500. If you lose a game, your team rating would not change at all. If you won, it would increase by 47. This was not explained as arising due to an interaction between the team rating and the opponent's MMR, however - it was explained as the system trying to get your team's rating as close as possible to your team's MMR rapidly.

Therefore, a corollary here is that when determining rating increase, the hidden threshold value for your league is added to your displayed rating, then compared to your opponent’s MMR, for purposes of computing the gain/loss to your displayed rating.

Example: you and I play a game. Your MMR: 2600, sigma: 100, displayed rating: 300. My MMR: 2500, sigma: 50, rating: 150. Diamond’s MMR threshold: 2300. Excal wins because he rules. What happens?
- Your MMR will increase
- My MMR will decrease
- Both of our sigmas will decrease
- Your rating will increase. How? By comparing my MMR (2500) against your rating + diamond’s MMR threshold: 300 + 2300 = 2600, your gain is thus off 2600 vs my MMR of 2500
- My rating will decrease. In the same way: his MMR: 2600. My rating + threshold: 150 + 2300. Thus I lose points proportionally to 2450 vs 2600.

TL;DR

You need a certain win % (likely above 50%) against players in the league directly above you; and in your own league. The more games you play, the more accurately battle.net will place you.

i never actively played that game myself but even i can tell that this game isnt regular. who builds up that large armys jut to have them standing aorund lol

Well, true 47min long game while most games are around 20min~ We wanted to rush them but they had a gay strategy of camping inside going straight for thors and making bunkers to keep us off, so we were just going to play it out while we made some stupid mistakes of our owns which led us to retreat (any rush of them would kill us off if our army was out in the open) so we camped in our base giving ourself a little advantage until i came up with the idea to try to nuke their army (only real chance left)

Though, if it's taking you 47 minutes to beat bronze players, then maybe bronze is the place for you ;D

In conjunction with this, the MMR is actually one part of the skill probability distribution. Blizzard also uses an “uncertainty” factor. That is, when you first start in Arena there is a lot of uncertainty in your rating. As you play more games, that uncertainty decreases and the system is more “confident” in the rating it has assigned to you. I will be referring to this uncertainty factor as sigma, and it is the inverse of the system's confidence. The curve represents a couple related ideas: the range in which your skill may truly fall, as well as the fact that you do not play at exactly the same skill level every game. A more consistent player would have a narrower curve, for example.

After a match finishes, the system needs to update the MMR and sigma for both players. Whenever a match finishes the winner’s MMR increases and the loser’s decreases. More interesting is what happens to the sigmas. If the match finished as expected with the MMR favored player winning (and remember, the loading screen “favored” display is NOT this) then both players' sigmas will decrease. That is, the system gains confidence in the ratings it has assigned to the players. If the match finishes in an upset and both players' sigmas are small, then the sigmas for both players will increase as the system thinks it may have an incorrect rating assigned to both. The change in sigma scales based upon the difference in MMR and the difference in sigmas. That is, losing to someone close to your own rank will not change your sigma too much (though it will over the course of several games).

If a lower-MMR player wins then what happens depends a lot more on their precise equations they are using. If a player's sigma is large in an upset (whether he's the winner or loser) it can decrease. That is because, given the right MMR and sigma values, it's possible in theory for the system to learn about that player's skill and rate him more accurately. If a player's sigma is small, however, it can become larger after an upset if that upset was truly unexpected.

Promotion(what you asked about :p)As initially theorized, promotion requires your MMR to be above a certain league threshold. However, because MMR changes greatly after each match and the opponent variation is so wide, often spanning multiple leagues, the system requires a particular degree of confidence before it allows promotion.

MMR is erratic. A moving average seeks to smooth out the rapidly changing data points over time by evaluating your progress over X number of games. As we previously estimated, the system doesn't use your full match history because if it did, you would eventually get stuck in a league. Once your moving average crosses a particular league threshold, that's when you'll get promoted.

Players like CauthonLuck and Ret who had obscene win ratios had their MMR data points skyrocket. However, the moving average lags behind. In the cases of those players, it will take much longer for the moving average to reach that required threshold. This is why players like IdrA who were affected by this problem have decided to intentionally throw games in order to get promoted, because it allows the moving average to catch up more quickly.

Possibly related is players that aren't getting promoted or demoted properly despite a high likelihood that their moving average would have crossed the confidence threshold. Blizzard has said that this is indeed a bug and will be fixed by moving the affected players to new divisions.

Displayed RatingOk, how does all of this tie into displayed rating and the whole “favored” deal? If you remember back to WoW, ratings changed based on a direct comparison of your displayed rating to the other team’s MMR. So if your current rating was 500 and you were playing people with MMRs of 2000, your rating would jump significantly after every win because of the wide disparity. Now, we’ve identified that on the loading screen quite often players are seeing the other person as favored and the opponent (who is nominally “favored”) also sees his opponent as favored! How can this be? The theory put forth here is the system is again comparing your displayed rating to your opponent’s hidden MMR.

The reason for this is so that the system brings you toward your MMR more quickly.

How it works was like this: Say you've got a MMR of 2500, and you start a new team. It starts at 0 rating, but the matchmaking system will match you with other players of MMR 2500. If you lose a game, your team rating would not change at all. If you won, it would increase by 47. This was not explained as arising due to an interaction between the team rating and the opponent's MMR, however - it was explained as the system trying to get your team's rating as close as possible to your team's MMR rapidly.

Therefore, a corollary here is that when determining rating increase, the hidden threshold value for your league is added to your displayed rating, then compared to your opponent’s MMR, for purposes of computing the gain/loss to your displayed rating.

Example: you and I play a game. Your MMR: 2600, sigma: 100, displayed rating: 300. My MMR: 2500, sigma: 50, rating: 150. Diamond’s MMR threshold: 2300. Excal wins because he rules. What happens?

- Your MMR will increase

- My MMR will decrease

- Both of our sigmas will decrease

- Your rating will increase. How? By comparing my MMR (2500) against your rating + diamond’s MMR threshold: 300 + 2300 = 2600, your gain is thus off 2600 vs my MMR of 2500

- My rating will decrease. In the same way: his MMR: 2600. My rating + threshold: 150 + 2300. Thus I lose points proportionally to 2450 vs 2600.

TL;DRYou need a certain win % (likely above 50%) against players in the league directly above you; and in your own league. The more games you play, the more accurately battle.net will place you.

:)

ranked 3 tho :DD