Ping problems

Hey Anonymous,

lately, I have extreme lag problems with my ping. We won't talk about my FPS in this thread.
I've always been used to have stable 48 ping on Netherlands, France and Germany servers. But now it's getting fucking unstable the whole time, whatever the server is, and it's jumping to 60,50,80,100,70,60, etc..

Could anyone tell me to what IP I should do a tracert so I can paste it here and maybe find a solution?

Ill be extremely grateful :)

xx
GOKU

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QuoteMicrosoft Windows [version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Tous droits réservés.

C:\Users\GokuSan>tracert 213.108.29.167

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers 213.108.29.167 avec un maximum de 30 sauts.

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 18 ms 17 ms 17 ms 1.91-128-109.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [109.128.9
1.1]
3 180 ms 191 ms * 0.241-183-91.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [91.183
.241.0]
4 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms 32.247-183-91.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [91.18
3.247.32]
5 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms bru-11-r7-t3-3.car.belbone.be [80.84.21.98]
6 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms ams-bgc-r5-t1-1.car.belbone.be [80.84.18.26]
7 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms ams-ix-r3-t2-3.car.belbone.be [80.84.18.74]
8 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms ams-ix.sara-ams.as34305.net [195.69.145.174]
9 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms 10ge-v3.core-2.ipv4-mg8.db-ams.euroaccess.nl [85
.12.0.34]
10 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 213.108.29.167

Itinéraire déterminé.

C:\Users\GokuSan>
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Blackberry ping ? :pPpPP
get net noob
Just do tracert to one of the Dutch or German servers. For instance the first hop is your router, second hop is your ISP and after that it's miscellaneous routing.
Quote
Microsoft Windows [version 6.1.7600]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Tous droits réservés.

C:\Users\GokuSan>tracert 213.108.29.167

Détermination de l'itinéraire vers 213.108.29.167 avec un maximum de 30 sauts.

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 18 ms 17 ms 17 ms 1.91-128-109.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be [109.128.9
1.1]
3 180 ms 191 ms * 0.241-183-91.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [91.183
.241.0]
4 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms 32.247-183-91.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [91.18
3.247.32]
5 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms bru-11-r7-t3-3.car.belbone.be [80.84.21.98]
6 23 ms 23 ms 24 ms ams-bgc-r5-t1-1.car.belbone.be [80.84.18.26]
7 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms ams-ix-r3-t2-3.car.belbone.be [80.84.18.74]
8 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms ams-ix.sara-ams.as34305.net [195.69.145.174]
9 24 ms 23 ms 23 ms 10ge-v3.core-2.ipv4-mg8.db-ams.euroaccess.nl [85
.12.0.34]
10 24 ms 23 ms 24 ms 213.108.29.167

Itinéraire déterminé.

C:\Users\GokuSan>

Do you understand anything about this?
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yes , your isp has problems 3 180 ms 191 ms * 0.241-183-91.adsl-static.isp.belgacom.be [91.183
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MalcolmX Windows MX [Wersja 8]



C:\Documents and Settings\dom>tracert 213.108.29.167

Trasa &#347;ledzenia do 213.108.29.167 przewy&#380;sza maksymaln&#261; liczb&#281; przeskoków 30

1 * 5 ms * 192.168.116.1
2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms 192.168.116.1
3 4 ms * 4 ms r1atm.zw.pl [80.54.67.1]
4 * * 8 ms 80.50.228.85
5 7 ms 9 ms 9 ms poz-r2.tpnet.pl [195.117.0.73]
6 20 ms 20 ms 22 ms hbg-b1-link.telia.net [213.248.103.61]
7 23 ms 20 ms 21 ms hbg-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.253.55]
8 30 ms 31 ms 31 ms ffm-bb1-link.telia.net [80.91.245.40]
9 35 ms 33 ms 51 ms ffm-b2-link.telia.net [80.91.252.172]
10 29 ms 30 ms 39 ms hurricane-ic-129711-ffm-b2.c.telia.net [213.248.
92.34]
11 43 ms 32 ms 39 ms 10gigabitethernet1-4.core1.ams1.he.net [72.52.92
.94]
12 33 ms 31 ms 34 ms euroaccess.10gigabitethernet3-2.core1.ams1.he.ne
t [216.66.80.66]
13 32 ms 33 ms 33 ms 10ge-v3.core-2.ipv4-mg8.db-ams.euroaccess.nl [85
.12.0.34]
14 34 ms 36 ms 31 ms 213.108.29.167

&#346;ledzenie zako&#324;czone.

C:\Documents and Settings\dom>
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noob juz istnieje wersja 8.1
Parent
no mam 8.1 tylko w wierszu pokazuje 8
Parent
obviously not, since it's french-.-
Parent
Get multicultural.. ":D"
Parent
Yeah, looks like that 3rd hop is your ISP fucking up. Paste this in a mail and send it to their helpdesk, probably not a lot you can do about it yourself.
Parent
Yea, just sorted it out with Belgiumjetro, I will call Belgacunt tomorrow. :)

Thanks for your time, anyway.
Parent
Maybe you might be able to help me a bit even though you have a grudge against me.. but let's forget our small misunderstandings - please help me if you can!

I always had big trouble with my current ISP. I used to play on Polish and German servers with ping 50-60 with other ISProviders while I mostly have ping 90-100 on German servers with this ISP now (for any Pole reading this -> Vectra, never ever sign a contract with them!) which feels utterly bad.

Here's a Polish server where I can hit very nicely:

image: isko

And although I can play fine on it I seem to have problems with the third hop, is it my ISP? Also, sometimes a packet goes missing during the second jump, can I do anything to fix that? (like dunno, configuring modem or changing that yellow cable to something more quality). I did the same test for some other servers (some I can hit well on and some not so great anymore) and again the issue was the third hop.
Parent
I haven't a clue which "grudge" you're talking about, but never mind that.

I'm assuming 10.100.0.1 is your router, but you're either on wireless with three concrete walls in between or it's pretty crappy (you would always like that to read <1 ms). Those 172.* hops should be nodes of your provider, but I wouldn't trust them much if they're not even using hostnames.

ISP quality can vary heavily depending on their routing. I had ADSL2+ for a while instead of regular ADSL or cable and I had twice the latency to any location (could only play Holland or Germany). Try to check if friends in your neighbourhood have the same trouble with your ISP and if other ISPs give better results.
Parent
No actually I am using a modem/router that is connected to my PC with one of those yellow cables. Could it be that this cable is just extraordinary bad quality or that I have to configure the modem, because it is not configured at all/configured badly? Or perhaps the modem/router is not really a good one (could that be?).. My Windows settings regarding my connection are properly configured, or so I think at least.. I've adjusted them with TCPOtimizer.

Also, can the sporadic packet lost during the second hop be fixed by buying a better 'yellow cable'. I know that some cables (HDMI) are quite the same despite the price, but some other cables (VGA) vary a lot and one should go for those with the best quality. I don't know if buying a good quality 'yellow' cable would help, do you know?

The connection type I am using is cable btw.
The weird thing is that a friend of me in my neighborhood has the same ISP and has significantly better pings than me on most servers :/
But I think he has an other router.. will have to confirm that tomorrow
Parent
Those networking cables are actually called (CAT5/6) UTP cables with RJ-45 connectors. HDMI/DVI/VGA are usually just for connecting a monitor or TV.

It could be possible you need to replace the cable between your modem and router or your router and PC (or both). It's also possible you're using settings with TCPOptimizer which your router simply doesn't support. It's best to revert those settings to default and keep them there until you're sure what's causing the problems.

All things considered my guess is that your router is pretty crappy. You could ask one of your friends if you could test their router before buying one yourself. It should be just a matter of resetting your modem and hooking up the router, DHCP on the router and your PC should take care of the rest.

If you do need to replace your router, get a known brand like Linksys or D-Link and don't spend too much money on it (40 to 80 euros should be more than sufficient). Don't get fooled by the "extreme" or "gaming" type routers which easily cost more than 100 euros, you will hardly be needing the extra performance.
Parent
Ahh I mislead you a bit. I don't have a router at all, just a cable modem. I do not need a router, do I? Or would it improve anything? The modem I now have is produced by Arris. Could it be that a modem is crappy actually? (are there better and worse modems or do they all do the same job equally well)

I had one of these with an other ISP:

image: index.php?title=Plik:Cable_modem_Motorola_V

I think I'm gonna buy myself a new UTP cable.. Also, I knew that HDMI and VGA cables are for connecting displays, but I mentioned those just to tell you that there are cables where it doesn't matter whether you buy a expensive cable (HDMI) and there are cables where you will (in this case) 'see' the difference (VGA) when buying a better cable. I'm not entirely sure if there is something like 'bad quality UTP cables' (like with VGA), but I'm gonna buy myself a new one anyway.. just to try and perhaps it'll become better.
Parent
You could check what kind of modem your ISP has supplied to your friends, if switching cables doesn't solve your problem you should definitely contact your provider (they should be able to check your connectivity or hopefully provide you with a new modem).

In theory a router wouldn't solve your problem or improve performance significantly. It is however pretty handy to have a router as it provides an extra layer of protection with an SPI firewall.
Parent
Thanks for your help, I appreciate it ;)
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okay robam8 has told me you can't remember who I am.. and the better :D
Parent
i have 3 options for you:

1. vid_restart
2. format
3. hang yourself
4. cut your wrists ":d"
1.done
2.done
3.cba
4.no knifes in my room
Parent
go find sum & let me know how it goes
Parent
I'm scared of blood.
Parent
Can't really see how a traceroute would show you what's going wrong.

Just surf to your router (192.168.1.1) and check your DHCP-log and see if there are some clients who shouldn't be there (or paste it here).

Might be a long shot.. but if you got a smartphone who is using your WiFi might also cause lag spikes.
Is het mogelijk dat je me dat allemaal uitlegt via IRC? :3
Parent
Thanks yous <3
Parent
how do I access the settings of my modem? I don't have a manual for my modem, is there some kind of universal cmd for that? or do I have to type my ip address in the search bar or..?
Parent
1) hit Windows key + R
2) type 'cmd'
3) type ipconfig
4) search for the "Ethernet LAN adapter" or smth like that (ip starts with 192.168.1.x)
5) Standard gateway of that adapter should be your modem I guess, just type that IP in your browser
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Doesn't work ; /

Or do I have to use IE for that?

Look here:

image: nanax

Which of those should I use? I tried 'Brama domyslna' and it doesn't work.

Should I type it exactly like: 192.168.0.0

or does there have to be some protocol in front of it?
Parent
use ip from "brama domyslna"
Parent
doesn't work :(
Parent
ja se ustawilem na 192.168.1.1 lepiej wyglada
Parent
belgacom?
restart your modem if that didint work. RESET IT
ask freeze for net settings
i c wat u did there
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